[POST] UFC 141: Lesnar vs. Overeem

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[POST] UFC 141: Lesnar vs. Overeem

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Denne event finder sted d. 30. December, 2011 i Las Vegas, USA.


MAIN CARD
Brock Lesnar vs. Alistair Overeem
Donald Cerrone vs. Nate Diaz
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Re: [POST] UFC 141: Lesnar vs. Overeem

Indlægaf Weirdo » 8. jan 2012, 03:39

Her er vi til gengæld ret uenige, Overeem har super gode parader, og er vant til at blive ramt af vanvittig hårde slag.


Det skal der også være plads til, du er jo i din fulde ret til at tage fejl! ;)
Jeg kan godt gå med til de gode parader.. MÅSKE. Hvis man f.eks. ser hans nyeste K-1 kampe så ja, hans parader snupper sådan ca. alt, men for det første er det med boksehandsker hvilket gør det væsentligt nemmere og så mener jeg ikke der er nogen af hans K-1 modstandere der har samme hand speed som JDS.

Men hvad er problemet i at JDS smutter et par slag igennem parader i ny og næ? (Werdum var i stand til dette) Hvis man som dig mener at han er "vant til at blive ramt af vanvittigt hårde slag." så er der jo ingen problemer, men er bange for at hans statistikker taler lidt imod dig på det punkt.

I kickboksning er 75% af hans losses på KO (3/4). I MMA 66% (6/11). Så en jernkæbe er jeg bange for han ikke har.

Opsummering: Jeg er bange for at JDS smutter en MMA handske igennem og ryster Reem. Hvorimod at hvis Reem sværmer JDS i clinchen har jeg svært ved at se hvad JDS kan gøre. Så inden du satser mormors tænder så synes jeg du skal tage risikoen for et one punch knockout med i beregningen.
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Indlægaf graungaard » 9. jan 2012, 06:18

Det jo aboslut også mulighed at jds prøver at tage overreem ned. så vidt jeg husker er han jo bjj black belt, selv om vi ikke har set meget til det..
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Indlægaf PerN » 9. jan 2012, 15:04

Men hvad er problemet i at JDS smutter et par slag igennem parader i ny og næ? (Werdum var i stand til dette) Hvis man som dig mener at han er "vant til at blive ramt af vanvittigt hårde slag." så er der jo ingen problemer, men er bange for at hans statistikker taler lidt imod dig på det punkt.

I kickboksning er 75% af hans losses på KO (3/4). I MMA 66% (6/11). Så en jernkæbe er jeg bange for han ikke har.


Jeg mener ikke han har en jernkæbe, eller ikke kan knock outes. Jeg mener, at han er vant til at blive ramt af folk, der slår ekstremt hårdt (Badr Hari agtige typer, dem er der altså få til ingen af i UFC), det slider ham ikke op, at blive ramt mange gange. Og du får det til at lyde som om, JDS bare skal få ham på afstand, så gemmer han sig bag parader, til JDS finder et hul. Et andet bud kunne være Overeem brugte sin bedre rækkevidde, til at brutalisere JDS der er for langt væk fra hullerne.

Tror også hans ground game er bedre. Jeg ved jeg lyder som den største Reem back padder, der er jeg egentlig ikke, tror der er flere UFC fightere som kunne slå ham, men syntes bare det er et skidt match up for JDS. Men bare rolig kender altid risikoen i en mma kamp, så jeg laver nok noget 2 ud af 3 betting med mormors tænder :)

PS. Hvis jeg ser Steven Seagal i nærheden af JDS trækker jeg alt i mig igen
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Re: [POST] UFC 141: Lesnar vs. Overeem

Indlægaf Weirdo » 10. jan 2012, 07:12

Tror lige jeg skal starte med at sige at jeg også håber på Reem :)
Det var bestemt ikke sådan jeg ville have det til at lyde, jeg er netop bange for at hans parader ikke når op i tide fordi JDS' hænder er så hurtige. Jeg tror bare hans chance er bedre i clinchen fordi der ikke er den samme risiko for at få en overhand right på låget af en JDS MMA handske, mener stadig at det er vigtigt at huske på forskellen mellem boksehandsker og mma handsker.

Hvis kampen skulle finde sted på afstand, pure striking, så kan jeg helt klart stadig se Overeem vinde, jeg er bare altid paranoid overfor det one punch med sådan en som Overeem, også derfor jeg altid har det godt med at se Diaz kæmpe ;)

PS. Hvis jeg ser Steven Seagal i nærheden af JDS trækker jeg alt i mig igen
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